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11:41 pm
May 27, 2009


ChizBub

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Lim signs ordinance allowing stay of oil depots in Pandacan.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/05/28/09/lim-signs-ordinance-allowing-stay-oil-depots-pandacan

Snubbing prayers of Catholic bishops, Manila Mayor Alfredo Lim on Thursday signed Ordinance No. 7177, allowing oil depots to remain in Pandacan district.

"Sovereignty resides in the people. All government authority emanates from them," Lim said, quoting the Constitution, during a long speech in front of hundreds of city residents at the Manila City Hall.

"Yes, sir, and yes, ma'am. Pipimahan ko na (I will sign it)," Lim said after his audience told him to sign the ordinance.

In his speech, Lim said that not signing the ordinance would leave more than 10,000 Manila residents jobless. He said businesses, not only the oil depots, will leave Manila if he vetoes the ordinance.

"Magiging ghost town ang Maynila (Manila will become a ghost town)," he said.

The mayor also believes that he will not be contradicting the Supreme Court's earlier Mar. 7, 2007 decision, granting the petition for mandamus filed by several Manila residents seeking to compel Manila city officials to enforce Ordinance 8027, which bans oil depots in residential areas of the city.

He said that the Court "impliedly gave remedies" to its own decision. He said the high court said in its decision that the Manila City council can repeal or amend Ordinance 8027.

"I've said again and again, I will not contradict the Supreme Court's decision; and that I have done. The Supreme Court did not only provide alternative remedy for the city, it impliedly gave remedies, such as repealing or amending the ordinance (8027)," Lim said.

The mayor added that before he came up with the decision, he met with all the stakeholders, including businessmen and Manila residents. He said he received similar feedbacks, which all point to allowing oil depots and other business establishment that will be affected by Ordinance 8027 to remain in the capital city.

Lim also allayed fears that the oil depot might be bombed by terrorists, which is one of the main reasons for the passage of Ordinance 8027.

On several groups' environmental concern, the mayor said "There is no perfect world. Everything must be compromised to some degree."

Bishops for veto

Last week, at least 100 Catholic bishops and priests started a signature campaign pressuring Lim to veto Ordinance 7177.

“We are deeply disturbed over the passage of Ordinance No. 7177, which allows the continued operation and establishment of pollutive and highly pollutive industries in our city,” prelates led by Manila Archbishop Gaudencio Rosales said in a manifesto released last May 19.

The prelates added: “We believe in this day and age, these industries have no more place in the premier city of our country.”

Other bishops who signed the manifesto were Manila auxiliary bishops Bernardino Cortez and Broderick Pabillo and Novaliches Bishop-Emeritus Tedoro Bacani, the Catholic Bishops' Conference of the Philippines said in a statement.

The prelates are praying for Lim to fulfil his earlier promise to veto the ordinance, which was approved by a huge majority of the Manila City Council.

“We trust that you will remain true to your word that you will veto Ordinance No. 7177,” the prelates said. “Having been senator and secretary of the republic, we believe that you will take the health and safety of the people as your number one priority. Please don’t fail us.”

6:44 am
May 28, 2009


Kiko

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Permanente na ba ang mga oil depot sa Pandacan? Sa pagkakaintindi ko, extension lang ang Ordinance 7177, eventually, aalis din ang mga oil companies. Hindi nga lang kasimbilis tulad ng 6-months deadline na binigay ng Supreme Court.

10:50 pm
May 28, 2009


ChizBub

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Parang wala akong nababasa na extension lang ito. So assume natin na permanent. Kung hindi ako nagkakamali, one plan was to relocate gradually for a period ending 2013. This was in one of the ordinance passed during Atienza time. Pero heto nga, 7177 reverses all prior ordinances.

Para sa mga nagpanukala ng 7177, ito ang mas matimbang sa kanila:

1. Ang kita ng mga oil companies ay hindi matapyasan.
2. Ang koleksyon ng city hall ay hindi mabawasan

Pera pa rin ang matimbang sa kanila kaysa sa kalusugan o buhay ng mga tiga Pandacan.

Tandaan nyo sila na ipagkanulo tayong mga tiga Pandacan:

Alfredo Lim, Isko Moreno, Arlene Koa
at ang iba pang konsehal na bumoto para dito.
(hindi ko alam kung ang lahat ng konsehal ng district 6 ay bumoto para sa 7177. sana walang nag-hudas sa kanila.

May ilan na medyo naririnig natin na lumalaban para sa atin – si Konsehal Bonjay Isip, Joy Dawis-Asuncion,Manuel Zarcal, at kay Vladimir Cabigao, mga dakilang tagapagtanggol ng aming karapatan pang tao. Saludo kami at susuportahan namin kayo.

1:39 am
May 29, 2009


miyong

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kahit nasa maynila ang mga oil depot, di naman mababa ang presyo ng mga produktong petrolyo sa bansa. walang kwenta ang argumento na mas mamahal pa ito kung aalisin sa pandacan ang mga ito dahil, isa na talaga tayo sa pinakamahal sa asya.

isa pang argumento na mawawalan ng trabaho manilenyo? mali ulit, panandalian siguro oo, pero sa katunayan, mas malaking halaga kung magiging commercial at residential ang lugar na aalisan ng big 3. mas malaking oportunidad sa maynila at mga taga pandacan ito, sobra nilang minamaliit ang kakayahan ng mga tao at taga maynila. bukod pa rito, sa lugar na sakaling lilipatan ng big 3 ay siguradong magkakaroon ng trabaho para sa mga mamamayan nito. hindi ba mas makabuluhan itong distribution of wealth na may ilang daang taon nang pinangangaral ng mga modernong sibilisasyon…

hindi maaring maging ghost town ang maynila, sobra sobra na nga tao rito, isa tayo sa pinaka malaking siyudad sa buong mundo in terms of pop density (bilang ng tao kada unit of area) at populaiton growth – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megacity

ang nakikita ko lang, wala kaseng mabilisang halaga sa mga politiko ang pag-alis ng big 3 sa pandacan. sa kabilang banda, sigurado sila sa pondo sa susunod na halalan, kahit na kinabukasan ng lungsod ang kapalit nito…

mga kabayan, wag kalilimutan ang paghuhudas na ito sa atin at sa mga anak natin. iparamdam sa darating na halalan…

5:52 pm
May 29, 2009


Andres

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posts 243

ang gawin ng big 3 ay magpagawa ng eskuwelahan na libre na ala ERDA style. libre sa lahat at lalo na sa mga taong Pandacan. tutal mananatili sila dito eh di lubusin nila ung mga tulng na pwede nilang maibigay. kasi ung one time na tulong gaya ng free medical mission o eating program gaya ng sa mga politiko eh halos ganun din na parang bale wala.


bakit kamo, kapag nagpa-feeding program ba ang saing tao o kumpanya eh habang buhay na ba syang busog o kaya kung sya ang nagpa check up sa isang medical mission eh hanabng buhay ba nilang susustentuhan ang mga gamot niya? di ba hinde? kaya nga one time nga lang eh. pero kung school ang itatayo nila at mapag-aaral ng libre ang mga batang Pandacan ay ito ang madadala nila habang buhay. and edukasyon ng tao sa eskuwelahan ay syang yaman nya kahit saan sya pagpunta.


sana, school na lang kesa park, sana school na kesa maedical mission, sana school na lang kesa feeding program at sana may kasamang libreng pabahay gaya sa Taguig na itinayo…. im not sure pero un ba ung centineal village?

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